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20Feb/091

Reasons Against Pre Trib

Author: Trenton

I have posted a new article on my site giving reasons that the pre-trib rapture is false.  It will remain as a page, rather than a blog entry.  It will be updated any time I think of things to add.

4Dec/078

Connections of the Trumpets and Vials

Author: Trenton

Introduction

I heard that one should read the Seals, Trumpets and Vials together. I have done so, and the Trumpets and Vials match up with each other almost perfectly.

I've wondered about whether the Seals are loosed at the same time as the corresponding Trumpets and Vials, or not, because of Revelation 8:1-2Open Link in New Window, the two scriptures referring to the last seal being loosed. It indicates that the Trumpets start to get blown after the seals are loosed, not before. Revelation 7:1Open Link in New Window also indicates that the Trumpets haven’t been blown yet due to the words “after these things”. It’s saying that “after these things” the angels go and seal the 144,000 Jews, then the last seal is loosed and then finally the Trumpets begin. But, there is no indication whether "after these things" is in reference to the things being revealed, or in reference to the order of the revelations being given to John.

I've also wondered many times, if perhaps the seals do match up. Mainly because the events in the 6th trumpet match things that Yashua spoke of, as well as OT prophecies. And, those prophecies tend to indicate that Christ's return is immediate after that. My wife has reminded me of this recently, but I'm uncertain. I've always struggled with that issue.

Some people are deceived into believing that we are going to get an early rapture out of here. Below you can see that this is simply not true. Revelation 6:9-11Open Link in New Window, Revelation 18:4Open Link in New Window and I Corinthians 15:52Open Link in New Window all show clearly that we can’t get out of here before we are persecuted like the believers of the past, or until the last trump. Revelation 18:4Open Link in New Window indicates that we could be partakers of the Whore’s plagues (vials) if we don’t come out of her. And seeing that these two items (Trumpets and Vials) all appear to happen in sequence together; 1st Trumpet and Vial; 2nd Trumpet and Vial; etc, we can’t possibly be getting an early rapture. We will be persecuted by the people of this earth, but we will be protected from the wrath of God that is poured out on the earth. In other words, we will be protected from the plagues and such, which will envelop this earth.

I’ve seen the odd scripture that "might" slightly indicate that we would get out before these things occur, but I’ve found them to all be simple mis-interpretations, or not seeing the big picture. I have also found other scriptures that refute these mis-interpretations.

Also, Revelation does not appear to be in any particular order. It seems like there is some sort of overlay that occurs.

I recommend you read this article in it's entirety. But, if you want to read it one piece at a time, I have provided a table of contents so that you can finish where you left off.

16Sep/073

The Anti-Christ of the END

Author: Trenton

For quite some time, I've been wanting to put scriptures together about the Anti-Christ. I have never had the motivation to do so. But, recently there were some discussions happening on a forum, which made me get a lot of what I know about the Anti-Christ together. So, this is the fruit of that. Keep in mind that I haven't followed any post-trib rapture believers writing's on this topic, until after I had a firm understanding on all of this for myself. I have done my best to keep myself untainted.

I try to focus mostly on the Anti-Christ (it hurts to say that LOL :) ), as that is what this is about. But, some other scriptures are relevant to the end times, and help with some understanding. Keep in mind that it's very important that this be studied very thoroughly, in conjunction with the scriptures provided. This will help with your understanding of what I'm saying. I also ask that you try and put the preconceptions, that you might have, away for awhile, and try and look at the end times from a whole new perspective.

10Jun/072

Pre-Mid-Post Tribulation Rapture

Author: Trenton

In this post, I'll be going over some stuff that I already went over in the binding of satan post. This is the document that I originally wrote, concerning pre-mid-post tribulation rapture. It's a little long, and will take a few minutes to read.

I believe that the word of Yahweh makes it very clear that we do go through the tribulation. We are not to have fear during this time, because our lives are in the Lord’s hands. We are to have complete faith in Him no matter what trials come our way.

First, we state some facts, and then we prove them. Not all of these facts are required to prove that we are here, at least beyond the beginning of the tribulation. However, facts 1, 2, and 5 are required to prove this. The seventh trumpet being the last trumpet also adds to the fact that it’s not mid tribulation rapture.

End Time Facts

  1. There are only two resurrections
  2. The rapture and 1st resurrection happen together
  3. The seventh trumpet is the last trumpet
  4. The trumpets and vials are all done together
  5. Christians die during the tribulation