Todd Bentley, Patricia King, and Emma the angel of light
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- The Hidden Darkness Exposed
- Todd Teaches that we can buy the anointing. See my "Loop Hole of the Kingdom" blog entry.
- Read a first hand testimony of a Todd Bentley conference in San Antonio Texas on my wife's blog entry of .
- Do Miracles validate a ministry?
- Vision of the Acid Cloud
- Put Down Your Bibles
- David Wilkerson - On Manifestations
- Todd Bentley - Body Guards
- Todd Bentley - The Deception
- Christian Civil War - a reply
- The Greatest Carnival Show On Earth
- Andrew Strom - An Insider's Warning
While I was seeking the Lord about Patricia King (in 2003), I had a dream about Todd, who I hardly knew anything about, let alone the connection to Patricia. I was confused at the time, because I was expecting revelation on Patricia, not Todd. But, the apple does not fall far from the tree. I thought my wife had told me that he was taught by Patricia King, who actually came out of the occult. But, she says she didn't say that. Hmmm. I also heard that while in the occult, she had supernatural signs and wonders as well. But I will not speak of her any further than that. And you can consider the last couple of sentences hearsay, as it could simply be rumours, although I doubt it. Anyhow, on to the actual revelation of emma.
In the dream there were people talking about emma. Then I heard the Lord's voice say "Emma is not one of my angels", or something to that affect. Immediately I awoke and said "Thank you Lord, now I know that emma is not of you". A friend then searched the internet for a connection of emma, after I had told him about my dream. We found that emma actually means to "embrace everything". We also found that another name for satan is "emma-o". Then later, a friend heard about emma. She instantly saw the devil, who had visited her as a baby christian. God had showed her that this devil, who had called herself the enchantress, was actually satan. So, I tied the internet stuff, to what my friend saw, and concluded that my friend and I were correct, it was Satan.
Then, my wife, who I married recently, actually went to a Todd Bentley conference. She said she felt horrible evil there. But she was being as open to the Lord as she could be. All of her friends were being touched by "god", while she was not. By the end she has having a really hard time with everything. She thought that perhaps it was her. Anyhow, he was selling "anointed" handkerchiefs there, and taking money from people so that he could pray over them. This is normal with the people on the Elijah list. They honestly believe it is okay to take money from people so that they can prophesy over them. It came as no surprise really. But I was still stunned because I had the revelation of him before I knew about any of this rotten fruit.
Is Todd Bentley or Patricia King of the devil, or are they saved? I honestly do not know!!! Are they decieved? I whole heartedly, with a fear of God in my heart, say ABSOLUTELY YES!!!!!!!! It scares me to talk about this, because we have to be careful how we speak of others. But it is still very important to warn people away from these people, at the very least. And everyone that believes there's something wrong with these people has the right to say "I have issues with those people, be careful". Just don't let it go any further than that, without REAL confirmation from the Lord. I'm talking about receiving something from Yahweh beyond "checks" in your spirit.
All of the people involved in the circle of friends, in connection with Todd, Patricia, etc, etc, always talk about the angels that come to them, and never talk about discerning whether an angel is of God or not. I can only pray, and hope, that they are saved in the end, even though their works will be burnt up.
It is critical that we do not follow men, but God alone. Men can and will lead us astray in many areas, but God never will. If we have arrived to a place that we should not be in, it is because we followed the wrong person, or came to a conclusion ourselves, that was not of God.
May 11th, 2008 - 15:46
the emma angel was released to bring wealth to the body. this tells me she is not of God because the bible teaches contentment, not that all will be wealthy. simple. todd is either deceived or lying.
May 13th, 2008 - 12:41
Trenta,
I was intrigued by your dialogue with the gentlemen who did not agree with your warning about Mr. Bently (Mark) but I was bummed by your comments on the church. When I use the word church I am talking about people who have committed thier lives to Jesus and are madly in love with him. I am talking about the people Jesus talked about when he said in Matthew 16
that he would build his church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. It seems and I do agree with your insights on Bentley being Heretical it again seems like your against church. You say you have a fellowship but your against church. Am I hearing you wrong. Go back to revelation and again see our Lord in the midst of the candlesticks jesus is into church and that is where I get to be fed and grow in the grace and knowledge of Him
Let his truth reign John 17:17
Blessings,
Pastor Mike
May 13th, 2008 - 13:57
Hi Mike,
I’m not against “church” as in gathering together, to build each other up, to reprove each other, to encourage each other on the strait and narrow path, etc. I’m against the institutional church, as in the idea that a “Pastor” runs the show, and everyone must submit to him. It also amazes me, to some degree, that many of the church board members are made up of the most immature believers, which is not the way it should be.
I am also not against there being leaders, as that is clearly biblical. But, what I am against, is the quality we find in “leaders” today. One doctrine that really sums up what I’m really against, is the “shepherding” movement. It is the epitome of what Christ was against. He said that if we want to be “great” among the brethren, we must be their “servant”. And if we want to be “first” among the brethren, then we must be their “slave”. Furthermore, in the letter to Ephesus, He said that he HATES the deeds of the Nicolaitanes.
I am also not against gathering together in a “church building”. There is nothing in scripture that either ordains or forbids such things. But, it seemed, by the language used in some of the epistles that people did gather in buildings. There are also scriptures that very directly say that people gathered in homes as well.
I hope that clears up some of your concerns Mike!?!?
May 13th, 2008 - 19:24
We need to be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves here. But I believe that Todd Bentley has been totally misled and now he is misleading thousands of people. The bible warns us that in the last days we need to be on the alert for false prophets. People are flocking to this church in Lakeland saying, “Jesus is there”. As I recall Jesus warned against that.
Do not be misled my brothers and sisters. When Jesus told the disciples he was leaving the earth but sending the comforter and that they would do even greater things, I do not believe those things were crowing like roosters, gold dust appearing, fillings being replaced with gold etc. etc.
Jesus while on earth never did these things nor did his disciples.
Be verrrrrry careful brothers and sisters that you are not misled.
Even scripture says if time was not cut short even the elect might be misled.
I am praying for all of you who have gotten themselves caught up with Bentley and co. Test the spirits. Get on your knees and seek God.
May 14th, 2008 - 18:09
People… Men and Women… In the times near the revelation of Jesus (the apocalypses) it is told for those who are his that the great delusion would be present. It is a spirit sent forth (permitted) by HIM the Father – as scripture so tells us so it is…..for the express purpose of exposing the huge structures called churches and myriads of peoples who were falsely considered brethren and sisters as NOT HIS. “They went out from us to show that they were not OF US.” Do not be dismayed. Fall on your face before the Lord of Hosts and thank him for having mercy on you and “KEEPING” you in this final hour of testing – for it will only get deeper and darker – but for a little while. For those who have pain or concern over brothers and sisters of flesh or spirit that are caught up in this. We are told plainly that “they did not love the TRUTH”. DO not fail in heart – that they are lost. It again is written that none of those He has put in His Son’s hand shall be lost to HIM… STAND where you are… “Fear them not”.
Speak to the constriction of those spirits that operate in the ‘Hand’ of the Fallen one. For they being disobedient do continually try and move outside the bounds set for them in this age as in the one before. We are to reset them so to speak… as did our LORD…by HIS WORD.. until the time when HE not US fulfills the reaping.
Have trust in the word given to you and speak what will be according to the same. These things are part of the small early stirrings… leaving those who went to them as empty as the BEIT-EL or ‘Houses of God’ or “churches”…that are spoken of by the prophet Amos.
Do not think that those under such delusion can be swayed with words of reason. This is handled by the example or actions of Aaron who stood in the midst with the censer of praise and worship. Those behind him LIVED while those before him died. He did not reason with them before or behind but stood as we must stand… in the gap in the midst ..and raise the standard that cannot be breached.
For even the wrath of Lord of Hosts was so stopped .. think not that a spiritual creation of HIS must not also be diminished in similar fashion.
Draw the confines “ maintain them according to the WORD” that this spirit of delusion will operate in these last days… rather than watching in horror …Be of Good Cheer and marvel not at the magicians of the Pharaohs’ that abound… The Holy One, Blessed is HE – is neither remiss nor late in season… When they ask … I will send it… He says…
Be in Peace… Have CONFIDENCE that what you set before HIM is so kept.
These regional brides of the Fallen one and valentinian prophets and preachers are as old as the age itself nothing new… so fret not for their end is written.
Remember THE FATHER and His Spirit will never scold you for doing as HE commanded ..And TEST every spirit… he will commend you… just do not allow these things to steal the fearful joy and humbling realization of except for the grace of GOD there go I.
To those who say you are resisting “a holy spirit” .. hmmm…. could King Saul or his murderous cohorts resist the POWER of GOD .. NO !! when HE fell upon them with their minds and heart bent on murder… they did not loose cognition and composure nor stance but became animate with the WORD of GOD and his prophesy. A false spirit can be resisted by those who are HIS. His Spirit cannot be resisted in its work only quenched in its effectual working of making Jesus our LORD and not just a saviour.
Please apologies for grammar and spelling…
Mark David
May 15th, 2008 - 12:51
You are quick to judge & they are evil! Wow, first of all, about the money issue, that is not true!!!! I have never seen him take money just to pray for people or ever sell annointed handkercheifs! Actually throughout this whole Lakeland outpouring, he’s never focused on taking offerings, they’ll take them around 11 pm, after about half the people already left, then says whoever wants to give can give, he doesn’t make a big deal about it! He’s there for the glory, & gives all the credit to Jesus! How do you know you aren’t the one with the false revelation!
May 15th, 2008 - 13:35
That is a very good question Kayla. How can I know that I am not the one with a false revelation?
1. The Lord has given me a track-record of being right on revelation I have received from Him. Of course, only I can know that, and those who do not know me will not know that.
2. We need to look at the fruit of Todd Bentley’s ministry, and his doctrines. If a man is of God, his doctrines will be pure on key issues. I’m only speaking of key issues here, that the Apostles have laid out clearly for us. One of those issues is the issue of money. Todd Bentley’s teachings on that issue are ABOMINABLE. You can read my “Loop Hole of the Kingdom” blog entry for more information. I link directly to Todd’s own teaching, on his own website.
3. Many other people have had revelations that emma is not an angel of God. So, I also have the witness of others, not just myself.
4. There are many reports of those who have been demon possessed, or afflicted by demons, after being prayed for by Todd, as well as his associates. That is a VERY SERIOUS MATTER. Since when do we here where people get demons from saints?
May 15th, 2008 - 18:05
Kayla, I have heard the same about the offering. But 8,000 people giving an offering actually pales in comparison to the millions watching on the internet with the “donate” button so close by or watching on God.tv who can do so also.
May 16th, 2008 - 00:00
The words .. many… are but few.
The use of “thus saith the Lord” is not in my casual vocabulary and should rarely be used as too often they are today as some form of credulity. Rather the unction of the Holy Spirit should and will direct ones thoughts and words and discernment.
That being said. ..
The concern/testing of whether or not a ‘certain move’ is of a particular spirit is the duty of the believer and corresponds to the degree that they ‘love the truth’; however, those who see and feel like they are alone need to be told that they are not alone and just rest in the Lord and pray to HIM about what you do not understand…. binding the powers that are not of the Father by the authority given you by HIM. This can be daunting to someone who sees everyone they trust and love etc.. taken up in these things while the very fiber of their beings reel with a holy unction that something is wrong. They must be reminded that they can Stand .. unafraid .. in the midst of it all or afar off and not be shaken…secure in the Lord and his love.
Allow Him to make the determination when we cannot. Just because we do not understand or receive ‘mud-in-the-eyes’ or another thing as our form of a ‘move’ we cannot without discernment just state for all it is one way or another.
It is for some in a small world view much ado about nothing. But for many who have seen some of the spiritual world outside western protestantry.. the reality of spirtual warfare and power that exists everywhere is real.
Maitreya heals where-ever he goes.
He heals the fundamentalist Christians to whom he appears or any other groups he materializes in front of regardless of their beliefs or lack thereof…all of course having the same symptoms of a Kundalini Rising…
I have walked into a room full of Tibetan monks where the people are healed and gold-dust falls and dew from heaven. I know what spirit this is .. for some it is their god ..it feels like fire and it moves like the wind of a storm.. but outside the obvious ‘wrong’ context.. not in a ‘church’ and not using cloaked Christian (valentinian) lingo .. It was not the Spirit of God..
I am saddened that we have left the Western Church in such a state that there are few who seek to hear and speak directly with the Lord and walk in Him but rather seek those who do not impart to those they touch, as the apostles and Moses, ..with strength and composure of spirit but further degrade the peoples senses of direction and stability.
That being said… anyone who is the Lord’s need not worry .. and this is the main purpose of what was said.. Nothing is new here.. This is quite old.. I walk on a leg grown from the knee at age 8 after it was cut off at age 6.. We grew up seeing that the power of God was not subject to the fraily of man nor dependant on his or her outward appearance. Counterfeits and Real …His always wins in the end .. His mercy always abounds. His serpent consumes the serpents of the magicians.
We just need to thank the Lord we have it so easy that our main concern is that our preachers may be deceiving us out in the open in public .. we don’t have to worry about someone locking us up for being believers..yet.
Finally it is written when the adversary comes in like a flood the Father himself will raise a standard against that one… ; however, if a delusion is sent by Him as it also is written .. We must rightly discern things…
The time for Nathan’s to appear on the seen is ripe – We need revival in the Nehemiah Way.
To those who invoke the ‘holier-than-thou’ en-passe. My response is we should be ‘ set-apart’ to the Father which is what the word means.. not perfected in the flesh…He is not finished with us yet.
May 17th, 2008 - 08:02
Furthermore, let me say, it is a very serious thing to call someone a false prophet. It should be done very carefully by discerning their messages and character. However, as Paul said, if someone comes with another gospel, another Jesus by another spirit we should expose them. Someone has to guard the sheep, especially since the pastors are filling buses, having “revivals with big screens in the churches to go see the likes of Todd Bentley.
“Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme : 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.”KJV
The deluded people are saying that we are blaspheming the Holy Ghost; the Word of God says that the people attributed the Power of Jesus to the Devil and Jesus said that they had blasphemed the Holy Ghost because they attributed HIS POWER to the Devil.
So, since Todd Bentley is working under the power of demonic angels and not the power of Jesus, he, and all that are following him, are blaspheming the Holy Ghost…This is very serious. Emma-O and his Oni demons that are possessing these people is also the King of Hell, that judges the dead, see my article
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2988066/ANGEL-EMMA-O-Todd-Bentley-GOD-FROM-THE-UDERWORLD-TODD-BENTLEY
The helping Oni demons take the people to hell in fiery Chariots. The great Apostle Paul warned us to discern and know those that work among us. Some dumb sheep tenders are trying to stop me from exposing this serious problem by saying, “Did she go to him and confront him?” They know very well that he is ministering publically, written his beliefs publically and has stated publically that his powers comes from EMMA-O and other angels. They also know that NO ONE COULD GET TO HIM TO CONFRONT HIM. These dumb sheep tenders are the blind leading the blind. TODD THE FRAUD is leading millions to hell and the blasphemer of the Holy Ghost is Todd Bentley and all his enablers who are attributing the power of God to these strange, weak man and his demonic angels. Mark 3:28-29
May 17th, 2008 - 15:42
Kayla said Todd isn’t into money. Tell that to my daughter with Lung Lymphoma who was at his last Dudley, England, conference. He spoke about money money money and then said we will now get to the healing bit.
Then he called out a woman with a tumor in the right lung and it was my daughter. She went to the platform and got prayed for by Todd and he said she was now healed and that she would be in the healing ministry.
But before all of that, my daughter and her husband nearly walked out as the whole focus was on money and people rushed to the front to pay out a lot of cash.
We have been watching the revival on God tv in Cyprus where we now live and initially were very pleased that Todd was getting well known. We know Trevor Baker who was on the platform the other night as we have been to his Church many times.
However when he got Paul Cain and Bob Jones involved, it started to have a negative affect on us. Bobe Jones gave Todd a word the other night that the 10 virgins in Jesus parable were ALL 13 years old. Where on earth does he get this garbage from?
Then I started to do Googles on Bob Jones and found out about the EMMA angel. I also found out that Rick Joyner is a Knight of Malta, which is Freemasonry order and full of witchcraft.
So our cage has certainly been rattled this week by these revelations and we can now see the huge deception that this group are bringing into the Church. Masonry is rife in the Church and it is at every level.
May 19th, 2008 - 08:06
I first saw Todd Bentley about 6 years ago. I tell you it is very evident from his appearance that he is agressively pursueing his past rather than his future! He was not covered with tatoos and piercings 6 years ago. As I understand the word of God, “Born Again” is a RENEWING of “All things”. It is the opportunity to pusue God, not the world. Yes, the bible does speak about appearance and we have every reason to judge with “caution” the intent of someone who is in ministry. Remember, in the last days the bible says there will be “impostors” and when sent to hell they will boast of their miracles and “spiritual” manifestations.
I am very concerned for the 1000s who are being deceived!
For the record, “I am a defender of and have experienced pentecost” but I insist on “authenticity”.
May 19th, 2008 - 11:11
Thought you might like to send some readers my way…
Todd Bentley has become ashamed of his “angel” Emma!
http://blog.thewaycf.com/2008/05/todd-bentley-do-we-have-anything-to.html
Slice of Laodicea has linked a note about it to me…
http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=787
If you would do the same we can put some more doubt in more peoples minds about this false prophet/teacher.
In Christ,
Jon Sharp
May 20th, 2008 - 05:06
Hi, I am new to all this Todd Bently Stuff.I am a born again christian and believe everything should be tested with the word of God.I just want to comment ,that from what I have read in the bible all angels were male.I dont know if there are any female angels in the word of God.Also I was listening to one of the testemonies of a raising of the dead of a little girl about 3 if I remember correctly on the live broadcast on Saturday 17th (Australia time).Tod was not there he had gone to another church for one night and the pastor mentioned the child was dead 3 days and on the way to the theatre to have or organs removed for donation she woke up.They believed this was the 9th raising of the dead.I dont know if anyone saw that part who can correct me if I am wrong,but up until this point I was open to”not putting God in a box”so to speak.However it did not sit with me ,but dont organs have to be removed as soon as posible from a dead person and transfered straight away to the new donor? Or am I wrong.Wouldnt the organs have begun decaying?And if so why would the child be on the way to theatre for the organs to be extracted.This Pastor should really check out the validity of the testemonies before broadcasting it to the world and puting “Jesus’s”name to the posible miracle of the raising of the dead.The pastor said he was late because he was busy making all these phone calls to make a validation on the authentisity of the report.
May 20th, 2008 - 12:08
Yes vivienne, within hours, the body is TOXIC. In three days, the body would probably start to stink quite badly. So yeah, they definitely would not be using organs for transplant. They may use them for medical research still???
May 20th, 2008 - 15:46
john 11:39… Martha, the sister of him who was dead, said to Him, “Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been dead four days.”
I am sure at 3days the process would be well under way!
As these meetings continue, the exagerations and fantasy will increase. Always does.
“Oh Lord, send the real thing”! When the “real deal” arrives, these men and women of fame and compromise will hide their heads in shame rather than lifting their chin to the glory!
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May 20th, 2008 - 16:45
here is my imput about todd!
1.god never created any female angels period!
2.toronto blessing revival of the 90-s todd was associated with people involved and that was a disaster full of demonic oppression!
3. lev.19:28 forbids tattoos and cutting of the flesh! when i saw this guy on the net i knew this man is not right with god!
4. pat robertson was supporting this move on the 700 club! most people dont know that pats father was a 33 degree mason and pat is a mason also! my advice to anyone reading this is not to get involved with todd or support him in any way!!!!!!!!!
May 20th, 2008 - 20:25
FYI to Pete. Since your other comment on the other one was similar, I copied it to here, cause it’s got more information…
Last night (Thursday, May 15, 2008) I watched Todd Bentley on GodTV healing people in “the name of the anointing”. This struck me as odd and didn’t sit well within my spirit as this does not seem to be supported by Scripture. Todd went on to say something like, “Bam! Be healed in the name of the anointing!” He did this a number of times during this service. Why would he not heal in the name of Jesus? I am struggling with Todd Bentley’s ministry over this. By the way…it took Todd 45 minutes before he mentioned the name of Jesus and another 15 after that until he finally mentioned a Scripture verse.
I am deeply saddened and righteously angry over the direction the church is heading in these last days. I am amazed at how many, and how quickly large numbers of good Bible believing Christians are falling into deceit with this latest “Third Wave” movement in the church.
Pastors are inviting the likes of Todd Bentley and Patricia King into their congregations without having done any real research, study or homework on these people aside from what friends have said and what can be found the websites of these ministries. Unfortunately, now when I see another recent term, “Extreme Prophetic” or “Extreme Prophecy” it has my red flags going up all over the place as I have yet to find a ministry that falls under these new categories to be completely of God in my opinion.
Folks are running from one church where glory or gold dust is falling and when that gets boring they flock over to another congregation where God is mending people’s teeth with gold fillings! Why wouldn’t God just put in new teeth? Just when this gets to be somewhat lame, they all heard over to such and such assembly because real gemstones are falling from out of nowhere during “Glory” sessions and impartations. Its all about the “glory”! The “glory” this and the “glory” that! Its about the “Blue Flame” or about the angel “Emma” and the angel “Purity”. I just read somewhere on the internet that apparently in some African countries real manna (heavenly bread) is appearing again. You’ll find the articles by Googling “Is Manna for today”. Truly amazing! WHAT NEXT?
Try to talk to your good Spirit filled Christian friends about some of this stuff and they will leave you wondering about the very spirituality of your own faith if you’re not careful! Tomorrow, Wednesday May 21, 2008 at 1pm., I am having an informal meeting and coffee with my own pastor who is one who has had both Todd Bentley and Patricia King at his church. I am hoping to discuss some of these things with him. I expect I might even be asked to leave his congregation and should that happen, it will come as no surprise to me. I may even lose many good Christian friends over this topic.
If our own pastors aren’t “up” on, or haven’t researched these so called men or women of God who preach a different of false doctrine, “WHO IS GOING TO WARN THE CHURCHES”?
It is my heartfelt desire that God grants me wisdom and knowledge and truth in all things.
JESUS IS LORD!
Sincerely, Pete Hommersen
Elliot Lake, Ontario, Canada
Where did the evangelizing the unsaved go to? Where has repentance disappeared to?
May 21st, 2008 - 13:49
I was there when Bentley emerged. Despite anything else you read it was at a small church in Abbotsford, BC. He is known in the area for boasts of his Hells Angels Connections, criminal background, and evil deeds. Yet, if you ask any of those badass guys about him – nobody knows who he is. Hmmm?! I was also living there (Mission, BC) when Patricia King broke two church bodies and left a wake of hurt people in her path as she cut a swath of satanic signs and wonders across the Fraser Valley and into Washington State. The Area church’s Ministers will not allow her to become a member of any Pastoral groups. She is known in Kelowna for giving fortune readings in tea houses. Beware also of her protege Faytene Krystow. She is in her mid-thirties yet presents herself as a 20 something in order to win over the minds of lost youth before they have an opportunity to fully know Christ Jesus. Back to Bentley, aside from what the Lord has shown me about his satanic ways, ask yourselves why does a man of God require handlers and/or body guards?!
May 21st, 2008 - 14:39
yes I also agree with vivienne, that all angels are males,I cant find any scripture anywhere to say otherwise